I'm Still Rollin' With The Summers

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11/24/2014 at 13:19 • Filed to: Winter, HOON, ain't care

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Kinja'd!!! William Byrd > Chris Clarke
11/24/2014 at 13:21

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It dawned on me that my FoST says it came with "summer only" tires. Ford can't tell me what to do!

Besides, it's FWD, how bad can it be in the snow? :)


Kinja'd!!! Chris Clarke > William Byrd
11/24/2014 at 13:22

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Summer is just a state of mind.


Kinja'd!!! treesmakewater > William Byrd
11/24/2014 at 13:27

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Its rare to get snow where i live, but we are supposed to this year. As you experiment with fwd on summer tires, i shall be doing the same with awd.

Best of luck on your adventures when the snow falls.


Kinja'd!!! davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > William Byrd
11/24/2014 at 14:15

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http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/fe…


Kinja'd!!! davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > treesmakewater
11/24/2014 at 14:16

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Consider braking distances...

http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/fe…


Kinja'd!!! William Byrd > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/24/2014 at 14:17

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Just need to plan ahead, got it.


Kinja'd!!! davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Chris Clarke
11/24/2014 at 14:26

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Hoon on, but consider your braking distances!

http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/fe…


Kinja'd!!! davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > William Byrd
11/24/2014 at 14:28

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WAAAAAAAY ahead.


Kinja'd!!! Chris Clarke > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/24/2014 at 14:32

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Does the braking distance have anything to do with that lever in between the seats?

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Kinja'd!!! davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Chris Clarke
11/24/2014 at 14:34

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If you read the post, they actually couldn't get the car up to 60 for the test, so they extrapolated it.


Kinja'd!!! Chris Clarke > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/24/2014 at 14:42

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So what you're saying is they just made it up?


Kinja'd!!! davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Chris Clarke
11/24/2014 at 14:50

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Snow Test Results

No one expects the snow tires to come in anywhere but 1st place on this wintry surface at AET. The point here is to see how big their advantage really is over all-season and summer tires.

It takes 11.7 seconds for our Civic Si to accelerate to 40 mph on snow tires, and 14.5 seconds to get there on all-season rubber — nearly 3 seconds and 24 percent slower. As for the summer tires, well, they require, ahem, 41.7 seconds as they struggle to 40 mph. That's no typo; it takes a half-minute longer — 257 percent more time — for the summer tires to reach this modest speed.

What about our traditional 0-60-mph test? Well, snow tires get to 60 mph in 19.1 seconds, while the all-season treads arrive in 22.9 seconds, nearly 4 seconds later. Forget the summer tires, however. The available 3,650 feet of snow — seven-tenths of a mile — isn't enough. We figure 67 seconds and 3,100 feet are needed to get there, and then there's the small matter of needing to stop again.

And that brings us to our next test: full stops with ABS engaged. Here again the snow tires dominate, stopping from 40 mph in 156 feet, some 28 feet shorter than the all-season tires' 184-foot performance. Meanwhile, our summer tires skate to an ultimate distance of 351 feet, the ABS actuator rattling for all it's worth the whole way.

Increase the starting speed to 60 mph and these distances more than double. It takes 362 feet for the snow tires to stop and 421 feet for the all-season donuts. The summer tires sit this one out because they can't manage to get themselves to 60 mph in the first place. (We do the math instead and come up with an estimate north of 800 feet.)

Skid pad results follow the same now-predictable pattern. Our snow tires pull 0.30 lateral g, the all-seasons manage 0.28g and the summer tires produce a pitiful 0.15g despite a heroic effort by our shivering hot shoe.


Kinja'd!!! Halifax Max > William Byrd
11/24/2014 at 14:50

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FiST in Houston, TX. I call them All-Seasons.